Still waiting to see anybody take notice of a post on the forge without the comments instantly turning into "hurr they are using terms I can't be bothered to understand they can't possibly mean anything by them they must just be using them to sound all smart and stuff let's go take their lunch money on the playground."
Like everybody who plays roleplaying games isn't using a big pile of terms that would be opaque to a random person overhearing them who couldn't be bothered to ask what they meant.
Auditing the thread for Forge-specific terminology:
Vincent's original post, as far as I can tell, did not include a single word of Forge-specific terminology!
Neither did the first reply by Judd.
Eero used the words "gamist" and "coloring" in his very long post.
Vincent's second post used the phrases "Step On Up" (another term for "gamist" or "playing for the sake of exciting challenge" and "Story Now" (another term for "narrativist" or "playing to see what story happens"). The context might have made these clear to someone more inclined to think than to whine.
Callan uses no forge-specific terminology in his reply.
Nor does Vincent in his third post.
Eero uses the word "narrativist."
No forge terminology in James Nostack's post.
Ron refers to an "old, incomplete, Color-first project" in passing.
Vincent's next post had no forge-specific terminology in it.
Callan's had none.
James Nostack's had none.
Vincent's next had none.
Ron's talks about "Color" a lot but his post mainly is talking about how Vincent's expectations, which were not fulfilled, might have been unreasonable, since he didn't take certain obvious steps to help make them happen. (This is ironically similar to what some commenters of Raggi's such as Jeff Rients said, that if the atmosphere of the game is supposed to come into play in a game like this, that the GM must take more of a hand in making that happen, and can't rely on the book enforcing it like it does in some of Vincent's games).
Ron's next mentions the word "Color" again.
Vincent uses the word "color" again. Someone reading thoughtfully would probably have grokked what it meant (atmosphere/look/feel/attitude/style/colorful details) long before this. He also uses the word "framing".
David Berg's post had no forge-specific terms.
C. Edwards uses "color" and "fruitful void."
Ron's next post has no forge-specific terminology.
Vincent's post has no forge-specific terminology.
Geez, it's almost as if people at the Forge are speaking English rather than some crazy Forge jargon designed to keep other people out and make themselves look all fancy. They're just trying to think about things and figure out how things work, why they worked out the way they did, and what that could mean.
You wouldn't know that from the comments on Raggi's post though. Advice: if you post on the Forge about anything, watch out for your lunch money. You've marked yourself out as one of those smart kids who thinks they're better than the other kids and needs to be taken down a peg on the playground.
My OSR bretheren, I like you and I like what you're doing. But why do so many of you have a chip on your shoulder about the Forge?
Friday, October 14, 2011
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